Canadian Special Forces (JTF2)
This is An Answer to the post made about the JTF2 , It was made by Someone called Chris …
I edited some text but the main content is still here :
Chris Said :
I have been in the Canadian Armed Forces for 13 years now.
I’m currently finishing my third contract and obviously I plan to extend it once again.
First thing, in regards to what most people think, especially younger kids, you can’t just apply to JTF2 after you have served your 3 years of your first 5 year contract, and it is 3 years not 2 like some videos may say.
And if you plan on joining the army just to try to get into JTF2 than don’t bother joining because chances are you will not get in and most younger guys who join with that attitude are usually hated because they are pricks and suck at the job and end up breaking out of their 5 year contract, sounds bad but it’s true. But there are 4 phases into joining JTF2.
Phase 1 is for members who apply at the unit level through their chain of command, completing the form Application for Service with JTF 2, which includes a verification of their medical category, as well as a signature from their Adjt/XO/AdminO that authorizes the applicant to proceed with the selection process. The application form is also available through the B/WPSO. You basically have to be pre-approved to advance into the training process, not easy to do.
Phase 2 -Applicants must successfully complete the JTF 2 physical fitness test and the CF Swim Test administered by PSP staff. A JTF 2 physical fitness-training program has been developed and is available at PSP offices. It is strongly recommended that interested members take advantage of this program, as recent unit research has confirmed that those who adhere to the program are generally enjoying greater levels of success. In addition, upon successful completion of the fitness portion, members must contact the B/WPSO’s office in order to undergo a screening process, which includes completing a cognitive ability test and a selection interview with the B/WPSO to assess attributes identified as being critical for JTF 2 applicants.
Most applicants do not make it past phase 2. So like I said if you join thinking that you will get into a SpecOp Unit and it’s just like the movies keep dreaming, it is nothing like that at all.
Phase 3 -Members who are invited to attend Phase III selection undergo a seven-day assessment process designed to assess whether candidates are likely to succeed during the SOAC, and to assess if they possess the personal attributes required for employment with JTF 2. The process is very demanding and pushes candidates to their physical and mental limits. Candidates are assessed on numerous criteria, which include: physical fitness (aerobic and anaerobic); performing effectively at heights, in water and in confined spaces; working as a member of a team; problem solving; and interpersonal skills. Assessments are conducted in high stress tactical settings to assess an applicant’s ability to recall directions, identify and react to threats, handle weapons safely, and make decisions under physical and mental duress.
and Phase 4(obviously)- Special operations assaulter course which lasts approximately seven (7) months.
If you plan on joining the military just because you think you will get into a SpecOp unit than DO NOT JOIN!!! Unless you have made a decision on what you plan on doing in the military do not join infantry. Joining infantry thinking you will be in a SpecOp unit is not a good thing to do. If you do not plan on being a career infrantry soldier than you are wasting your time because what opportunities will you have in life serving as a 5 year infrantry soldier? I have seen it happen too many times to good people and nothing ever comes from. So look at your options before joining because Infrantry is not for everyone, especially if you do not plan on going career.
And regards to the physical fitness test,if you complete everything stated-
You will need to do :
- 40 Push-ups (Minimum – no rest)
- 40 Sit-ups (Minimum in 1 mn)
- 5 pull-ups
- Bench press (65 kg min)
- Run 1.5 mile (2,4 km) in 9 mn
That will only get you 75 points, you will need a minimum of 90 points for them to even look at you pretty much. The only way to get a higher point rating is too complete all the tests with much better results than stated above.
Be realistic and look at all of your options before joining, that is all I am trying to say.
ProPatria
3RCR
Good points there..if you are in and want to go for the JTF2 that’s great..but I would first concentrate on doing your job, if you’re a member of the infantry excel at that first and make that your first concern and if you get the chance to try out for the JTF2 follow the programs as outlined in the CF and work as hard as you can to get through it.
But what ever trade or MOC you’re in excel at that first. No sense in concentrating one one thing that might not happen at the expense of what the CF has put time and money in training you to do currently.
hey im joining the army
i have a few questions maybe somebody can answer for me
im joining under infantry, can i switch what i do after im done my 3 year contract. I am not sure what i want to do in the army yet so i just applied as infantry solider to begin.
any suggestions
what the, wheres the next article? i mean what do you do after u graduate BMQ SQ and BIQ?
dont tell me uve been spending 3 months sitting on your ass?
Euhh yeah lol
well after our BIQ there is the DP2
DP 2 – Infantry Platoon Support Weapons
or
Recce Crewman
or
Basic Winter Warfare
And many other courses like (404 driving course)
but in my case i have a life , I’m not in the army 24/24 .
Currently I’M finishing a master degree .. so it take a lot of my time and i work as a programmer .
but when we don’t have a course we go to our Regiment .
few Tuesday / week and some weekends we have regiment training.
Also we will be traveling soon to Mississippi for a 10 days Camp .
Will post about it Soon , when i will receive my confirmation .
And for the courses it’s hard to find a place since the Army is missing instructors most are in Afganistan , but will try my best to finish at least 1 or 2 courses this summer .
well you might be in luck, apply for a transfer to royal winnipeg rifles and come to school here instead heh, ive talked to a recruiter yesterday and ended up changing my application to an officer application, so ill be able to train you up well
I am a Canadian citizen currently serving with the British Royal Marines Commandos for almost 3 years now, i was in the Canadian Forces Reserves before that for 3 years. I have been recently thinking about leaving the Royal Marines and trying to come back to Canada andoin the JTF2. i have done one operation in Afghanistan and been travelling all around the world during my carreer. i was just wondering how possible it was for me to come back home and join JTF2.
Hey Colin. My name is Chris, Im 19 years old. I am currently serving my first month in the Canadian Grenadier Guards Reserves Regiment in Montreal QC. My dream is to serve in the Royal Marines Commando unit in the UK. Could you please email me back. Id like to ask a few question about how you joined. Thanks
chrisnucci@hotmail.com
I disagree with this guy. If you want to get into spec ops u can! My friend is in CSOR and knew from day one he wanted to be specops one day, if ur a prick then ya ppl wont like u but if ur good at what u do u will advance if u want to. JTF2 is more serious but im sure you can get into CSOR if you want to
Hi I am 15 years old, my dream is to be on the water with the navy but I also want to fight on the front lines with the specal forecs or somthng.
Hi, i am 15 year old my drean is to join the armed forces but my even bigger dream is to join jtf2. currently iam with ea cadets and iam trying get all i can get ou t of it iam going sucba diving and i have bin doing lots of pretty useful stuff with them so i cant wait till iam 18
CSOR and JTF2 are both hardcore im saying jtf2 troops are a bit better but both are ridiculously hard to get into
No wonder all I hear about when people talk about canadian army/military whatever you call yourselves is jokes. Your biggest weopon is a whistle so if theres real danger you blow it and the Marines come in and take care of it. (did that sting a little? good because you brought it on to yourself). anything else cadet?
Hi I would just like to say that the stated initial physical requirements are so far below the standard for an international SF unit its almost laughable.
40 Push-ups (Minimum – no rest)
- 40 Sit-ups (Minimum in 1 mn)
- 5 pull-ups
- Bench press (65 kg min)
- Run 1.5 mile (2,4 km) in 9 mn
Honestly, having served in the Australian Army with the 3rd battalion (para) as my first unit before completing SASR selection, our minimum, and absolute bare minimum was:
60 pushups
100 sit ups in 90 sec.
10 pull ups
who cares about bench press??? absolutely useless for a soldier who needs his brain more than his chest
2.4km run in full webbing in less than 11 minutes
You don’t even want to know what the expectations are for SASR selection after serving a few years in 3 RAR.
If this is the Canadian standard, I sincerely hope they raise the bar lads.
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